[MUSIC PLAYING] Today is February 4th, 2026. I'm Maria Varmazis, and this is T-minus. [MUSIC PLAYING] T-minus. 22nd to L-O-N, T-dris. Open aboard. [INAUDIBLE] [MUSIC PLAYING] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [MUSIC PLAYING] Five. Blue Origin's Blue Moon Mark I lunar lander has arrived at Johnson Space Center to undergo testing. Four. ISAR Aerospace is expanding testing operations with SSC Space at S-Range Space Center in Sweden. Three. Airbus plans to deploy the Superbird 9 broadcast and broadband satellite for Skyperfect JSAT in 2027. Two. Japan's Skyperfect JSAT and Europe's Constellr are collaborating on the launch of commercial sales of high-resolution thermal infrared satellite data for the Japanese market. One. Satellite has entered into a commercial agreement with the Aerospace Corporation for the use of its disk SAT technology. [MUSIC PLAYING] Let's go. [MUSIC PLAYING] And today we have the very first of our chats from Commercial Space Week in Orlando, Florida. And this one I will be speaking to William Cook, who is the Senior Vice President of Space Operations at Scionic Navigation. We're going to be discussing their precision navigation offering. So make sure to stay with us after today's headlines to find out more about that. [MUSIC PLAYING] It is Wednesday, everybody. Happy hump day. Let's dive into today's Intel briefing, shall we? First up, satellite-- and that one's spelled S-A-T-L-Y-T. Yeah, satellite has entered into a commercial license agreement with the Aerospace Corporation for the use of its disk SAT technology. Disk SAT was developed by the Aerospace Corporation as a lightweight, compact, disk-shaped satellite that's designed to optimize future ride share launches. The Aerospace Corporation says that the unconventional shape enables new possibilities for cost-effective and rapid constellation deployment, improving packing efficiency and balanced mass distribution. Following a successful launch last month, four disk SATs are now in orbit, beginning mission demonstrations that showcase the potential of this innovative satellite form factor. Under the new license, satellite will integrate its onboard computing framework using disk SATs architecture to explore applications in autonomous operations, in orbit data processing, and distributed satellite coordination. The agreement establishes SAT Lite as one of the first commercial companies to work with disk SAT technology. Both teams will continue exploring opportunities for testing and technology validation throughout 2026. Japan's SkyperfectJSAT and Europe's Consteller are collaborating on the launch of commercial sales of high-resolution thermal infrared satellite data for the Japanese market. The partnership marks the first time a private company in Japan will commercially deliver data from Consteller. The company's collaboration introduces a new Earth observation capability for government and industrial users, complementing optical and synthetic aperture radar systems with object-level activity information. As it begins handling this new data, SkyperfectJSAT will further enhance its data provision capabilities as a space solutions provider and strive to deliver more advanced solutions that address customers' challenges. And staying with SkyperfectJSAT for our next story, Airbus says it plans to finally deploy the Superbird 9 broadcast and broadband satellite for the Japanese company next year. There have been multiple delays to the deployment of the spacecraft with the original target set back in 2024. But Airbus was selected to develop the Superbird 9, and it was based on Airbus' one-sat satellite design back in 2021, better late than never. Over to Europe now, and ISAR Aerospace, which has still yet to release a date for its delayed launch from January, is expanding their testing operations with SSC space at S-Range Space Center in Sweden. ISAR plans to open a second test site to support the development and production of its spectrum rocket. The new facility will enable testing of more than 30 engines a month, along with expanded integrated stage testing capabilities, increasing testing capacity, and enabling further development. And we do hope to see them launching at some point in the early part of this year. And Houston, we have a lunar lander. Blue Origin's Blue Moon Mark I lunar lander has arrived at Johnson Space Center to undergo testing. Very exciting. The testing will be conducted at the thermal vacuum chamber A, which is a 90-foot tall chamber designed to create a vacuum and simulate conditions in space. Blue is working towards a goal of providing a lunar landing system by the Artemis V mission. NASA currently has a contract with SpaceX for similar systems for the Artemis III and IV missions. The Blue Origin Blue Moon Mark I lunar lander is scheduled to launch on its inaugural uncrewed Hathfinder mission at some point later this year. [MUSIC PLAYING] And that wraps up today's top stories. Head to the show notes for links to further reading on all of the stories mentioned in today's intelligence briefing. And hey, T-minus crew, you know a lot of people are listening to podcasts through YouTube. And if that's the way you prefer to listen to this show, well, good news, everyone. T-minus Space Daily is indeed on YouTube. You might be listening to me that way right now, in fact. And if you are, hi. We do post our episodes there on YouTube, along with video clips from interviews and events that we do throughout the year, like commercial space week that we just did last week. So if you are dual screening at work and you keep the YouTube player going all day while your head's down, you don't listen. I get it. I'm not judging a lot of us to do it. At N2K Cyber is our company's YouTube channel. And you will find the T-minus Space Daily playlist there, along with all of the other shows that we make here at N2K. Spoiler alert, a lot of them are about cybersecurity. Hence the channel name at N2K Cyber. Again, that's at N2K Cyber on YouTube. And you will also find a dedicated playlist of all of our conversations from Commercial Space Week on there. So do go and check them out. Today we're featuring the very first of our guests from Commercial Space Week in Orlando, Florida. William Cook is the Senior Vice President of Space Operations at Scionic Navigation. I'm the Vice President of Scionic Navigation, which I'll go into a little detail about what we do. Steve Sanford, he was the Director of Engineering at NASA. And he and his team saw a need for advanced navigation. There's a gap in the technology. So with Artemis and Going to the Moon, Lunar Surfaces, Mars, Planetary, they spent over $40 million of research while he was still there. So he and several people at the company that are there now were the inventors and the developers. So when the time came, he acquired the license and the patents for all that. And so we have the rights to commercialize this technology. So it's called Coherent LiDAR. Coherent LiDAR. Coherent LiDAR. And it's a LiDAR system that performs navigation for landing, RPO, situational awareness. And it's based on the principles and uses the principles of Doppler. So-- Can I ask you before you go into detail, just if you could explain maybe a bit? I think most of us are familiar with what LiDAR is, but Coherent is a very interesting descriptor. So what does that mean? So think of FM radio and AM radio. And do people listen to AM radio anymore? I mean, but again-- Anyway, there's AM radio, amplitude modulation, and frequency modulation. So there are other LiDAR systems out there. Coherent LiDAR and the LiDAR system that we have developed is very complex, but it's very precise and accurate. So imagine if you're in CIS lunar or on the moon, there's no GPS there. And there's probably not going to be there for a while. Not for a bit. Right. But here on anything that moves, GPS can be jammed. This cannot be jammed. So a Coherent LiDAR sends an exact frequency out. And that frequency, it will see only the frequency that it sends out. So it can't be jammed. It can't be spoofed. The system can look directly into the sun and will not get confused by the solar radiance or anything like that. So that becomes a very important feature for some of our clients who are situational awareness, where if they're trying to see if some other spacecraft is approaching them, naturally you want to approach with the sun behind you, because any system is going to look, they're not going to see it. We provide the benefit of being able to look directly into the sun from a navigational and a sensor awareness, we still meet SPAC in performance. Now thermal heating, that's another thing. Yeah. Before we get into that, you had mentioned that there was a gap. Is that specifically part of the gap right there about the directionality? Or can you tell me a bit more about that gap? So the difference between the other LiDAR systems that many people are familiar with, our time of light, flashlight are, those have some RF. I mean, Apollo landed on the moon with RF laser technology, and it works fine. But this is another level of accuracy. Our velocity, we can measure below 2 centimeters per second squared. And our ranges, we start collecting data at well past 20 kilometers. And then as we get closer to our landing, the data fidelity and data modeling becomes even more clear. So our sweet spot is about 15 kilometers out. But we start getting good data. In some of our demonstration, we've flown on F-18s, we've flown on landers on the ground and earth. We've been on two missions in orbit, and we've got some excellent performance data on landing, actually, on the moon. So we're now working with clients. Astrobotics is going to be-- we're on the Astrobotics Griffin mission. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. That's coming up soon, isn't it? It is. And we're really excited. I mean, we're going to be-- they're going to be landing. The mission is to go to the South Pole, Shackleton's crater. Very harsh environment. So you have regolith, you have dust, you have-- on one side, it's very light. And then you get into the crater. It's completely dark. So the environment is very, very tough. Yeah. And this LiDAR system that we've developed, that has been developed, we're now producing it. We've moved from R&D. So the last couple years, we have revenue-generating programs now. But it's perfect for that environment. Wow. So a lot of talk of lunar application beyond that also. And your sites are on Mars, maybe, perhaps? Yeah. So we're really-- like I said, when NASA was developing this technology, it was with the understanding that we have to have accurate, very precise landing. And we're seeing a lot of that. There's been some failures out there. It's not easy to land on the moon. It's particularly not easy to do it, like some of the clips missions. NASA is promoting doing this at a certain budget. That just increases the challenges. So landing on the moon, we also have RPO systems, which are scanning systems. It's a little different technology and a little different. And depending on whether it's cooperative or non-cooperative, so how you design. The system at its core is the same. The electronics are the same. Now we have a beam-pointing unit on it. And whether you're putting static telescopes on it or scanning telescopes, that makes the difference in the kind of application that you're going to be using. Interesting. OK. I always feel bad asking this question because you all are working at the cutting edge, but what's next? What else are you working on? You know, well, that's a great question. So we're building the machine to build the machine. So like I said, we've talked so much. I started out at Orbital, very innovative. But it was a very entrepreneurial culture that we were mentored. We're trying to recreate or build that entrepreneurial culture where your engineering teams, they're thinking outside of the box, all the same clichés that you're hearing everyone's trying to do. But the thing we're doing right now is photonic integrated chips. So that technology is going to reduce the swap, your mass. So right now we're at 4 and 1/2 kilograms, which is phenomenal for this type of technology. We expect within the next six to seven months with our photonic integrated chips that we're going to be going through a QAL program. We're actually working with JPL. We have contracts with JPL on the Mars sample return missions. So we're already anticipating what kind of qualification, human-rated type technology is needed to be out there. And for us, it's going to be reducing the size. Additionally, in our technology roadmap, we want to deliver to our customers a total navigation system, so processing, our nav filter. We're already integrating IMUs on our ground systems. We've got that developed. We've also got the PIC, which is the photonic integrated chip. That's integrated all on our ground systems already. So our next step is to make it space qualified. But we want to deliver a complete package to the customer. So they don't need to go and spend extra money or getting processing. We don't want to be the company that just gives them data, and then they have to number crunch all that. Right, right. So-- Well, Bill, I don't always ask my guests this question, but you have a really fascinating story, and you've got a lot of experience in this industry. So I figure, given your perspective, what are you really excited about, not just at what you all are working on, but just more in general about what's going on in space, space industry right now? What's got you excited? Well, I will tell you, in my career, there comes a point where you're giving back. And I am that. I'm doing that a lot, because I was mentored by some of the best in the industry. But I do see the exploration, Europa. There's minerals. There's what they're mining. We're actually working with some of our clients right now that are going to be doing studies to find water on the lunar surface. And we know there's about 5% to 6%. But that's a small surface area that you have to find to find this. They're not going to make it easy for us to get it, they being the moon. So the moon is going to be a port. And then you can't take everything. So you have to be able to build that. Space mobility, you're going to need to get and travel around. This Mars, getting to Mars is going to take this side. And it's not going to be one or two technologies. It's going to be-- that's the beauty of space right now. Well, it's always been integrating multiple different systems into one. And we believe that our product and Cyannic has the right product out there to make that transition. We'll be right back. Welcome back. It's been interesting seeing how various space agencies around the world are choosing their lanes, so to speak, for areas that they're starting to really specialize in. To me, when I think about the many things that ESA is working on, I think of how they are really focusing on responsible, sustainable, spacecraft, reentry, and disposal. Learning how to do it in ways that are better for our planet and prioritizing good reentry practices for active and ending missions, that kind of thing. I do hope other agencies will also follow their example. And along those lines, ESA is going to be doing an interesting research project involving two satellites and a plane layer this year, two ESA cluster satellites. And cluster is a four-satellite constellation that finished its mission back in 2024 and are near the end of their life. Previously, two satellites from cluster already demised, but there are two remaining cluster satellites. And they are due to reenter this year in late August and early September. And ESA not only was able to tweak these remaining satellites trajectory, but it will also have a science team on a plane nearby the satellite's reentry points so those scientists can observe the reentry itself in real time, or at least they will try to. It's not a simple task when reentries do happen very quickly. And a mere 80 kilometers up in the atmosphere, very, very high up there. And I should note, ESA did an experiment like this with the first two cluster satellites that demised in 2024. And yeah, it was crazy hard to get a plane anywhere near the reentry and gather any useful data. And ESA is not mincing words. It's going to be crazy hard to do it again. But hey, the more data, the better. Because whatever we can glean on how these satellites break up in the atmosphere, what survives and what doesn't, will allow for smarter satellite design in what ESA calls design for demise. Ooh, it's kind of gothy. ESA will be doing a dedicated mission just to this effect, actually, with something called Draco, which is all about learning about what happens during atmospheric reentry from the inside. So even more good data to come from that. And with Draco and cluster, we'll have even better reentries and better, safer, satellite disposal. That's a win, win, win. And that's T-minus, brought to you by N2K Cyberwire. We would love to know what you think of our podcast. Your feedback ensures we deliver the insights that keep you a step ahead in the rapidly changing space industry. If you like our show-- and I certainly hope you do-- please share a rating and review in your podcast app if you don't mind. Please also fill out the survey in the show notes or send an email to space@n2k.com. 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